Pulpcore Meeting Minutes

Minutes
#41

Pending AIs

  • [bmbouter] talk about plugin compatibility policy for 3.20+ on discourse

April 19th

#42

Pending AIs

[matthias] find a slot for downloaders SIG kick off meeting (ipanova, dalley, bmbouter)
[grant] will open ticket with legals re:logo licensing

April 26th

  • Discussion around list APIs for Exporters and Remotes
  • Downloader SIG: need to schedule kick-off meeting
  • Release rotation - time to rotate?
    • Brian will take care of 3.20 release
    • what to do with the blogposts on the pulpproject.org? Probably we will drop those and have only discourse release announcements
    • need to fix deps requirements( upper bound) on older releases and main branch before 3.20 release
  • decision on compatibility release?
    • if 3.25 then it wil be 9-10 months roughly until next breaking change. 3.25 it is
  • Is the Pulp logo available under Creative Commons, CC0, CC-BY, or CC-BY-SA licenses?
    • our logo is unlicensed
    • we need to open a ticket with legals
  • Streaming support needs a little more work around content ranges and caching; test will probably a new ci scenario with sftp storage
  • triage security alerts?
    • yes, add them next to the PR review ( from the next meeting)
#43

May 3rd

#44

May 10th

  • Look through remaining maybe-finished issues
  • z-releases
  • 3.20 tentative release date? first go/no-go?
  • status of django 2.2 in pulpcore 3.7 / 3.14
    • updating core/3.7 to last 2.2LTS, will require a change in (at least) matching pulp_container version
    • need to evaluate other plugins (Required PR: ?)
    • need a plan for who/when/testing
  • bmbouter and dkliban are updating pulp_file tests to use pytest, merging them with pulpcore
#45

May 24th

#46

May 31st

#47

Pending AIs

[dkliban] release pulpcore 3.19.1
[bmbouter] to propose majority use of nightly tests
[bmbouter] to highlight UI component creation on discourse

June 7th

  • telemetry pr in-review
  • CI Update
    • Functional tests to be run inside the container instead of the host
      • Installation is a nightmere today
      • More similar to dev-environment
  • Reducing CI runtime:
    • moving most tests to nightly
  • Collaboration with david N on using galaxy NG generic React + Patternfly components for a future Pulp UI
#48

Pending AIs

[dkliban] release pulpcore 3.19.1
[bmbouter] to propose majority use of nightly tests
[bmbouter] to highlight UI component creation on discourse
[matthias] figure out where sort is coming from

June 14th

#49

Pending AIs

[x9c4] Post on discourse about uninstalling pep8speaks
[x9c4] Investigate and post on Discourse about squashing migrations

July 12, 2022

#50

July 19, 2022

#51

August 9th, 2022

#52

August 23th, 2022

#53

August 30, 2022

  • pulpcore 3.21 release plans?
  • need someone to regularly go to katello integration call and report for pulpcore
    • dkliban to take over the reporting role for pulpcore
  • We need to have rules for approvals.
    • proposal: Require one Approval from SME and one non-necessarily-SME.
    • rationale: We do not have enough people to find two SME for each PR. Admin-merge is not a good solution (and an even harder requirement). Each pulpcore committer should be able to find code smells.
      • We’re supposed to have two SMEs for each component, so couldn’t we have two SME reviewers?
        • even when we do - if one (of the two) SMEs submits the PR, we’re still short a reviewer
      • problem: we don’t have the SMEs for pulpcore components written down somewhere
        • solution: mdellweg to write up SME components and list
  • FYI: pulp-smash proposal to be put into read-only mode on Sept 5th
  • set prio-list label
    • to review asynchronously and propose 3 items via pulp-dev, then we will review next week
    • added prio-list query to the top of this hackmd Issues · pulp/pulpcore · GitHub
  • review/unblock any assigned tickets, so folks have no more than 2 items assigned (or find a good reason to increase the limit)
  • backport discussion
    • still doing updating automated CI updates for every release branch back to 3.14
      • suggestion: have a list of explicit “supported releases”
      • AI for dkliban to write up and implement
    • suggestion: after a product release drops active support, we do stop eager backports
      • e.g. Once Satellite 6.N+1 comes out, “active” support stops and they only patch critical issues, z-streams not planned in advance
#54

September 6, 2022

  • Update list of SME
  • content-type change affects a pulp_ansible test
  • Discussion on https://github.com/pulp/pulpcore/pull/3136
    • Suggestion: instead of using uuid directly, provide a pulp_uuid function which we can change the implementation of without needing future migrations
      • Can be done independently of whether we adopt UUIDv7 right now
    • Discuss further at 3.21 go-no-go meeting
#55

September 13, 2022

#56

September 20, 2022

  • There’s an ask for more opinions
  • Some kanban reflections
    • Outbound: How do issues move off the Kanban board? Lots of “done” issues currently, clutters the per-repo view
      • Pulp Kanban board · GitHub
      • it is not implemented yet, but Tanya’s idea was manually dispatching a workflow to clean the done tasks at the beginning of the planning
    • Inbound: many plugins have nothing on the board, is that an accurate portrayal of priority or a process issue? Do we need to add items more frequently?
      • Only 2 “free to take” issues outside of the RPM plugin
    • Challenge: How do we manage the prio-list label with full inclusivity in an async environment?
    • We lack hard limits on the in progress/review columns
    • Items with reviews must move back to “in progress” if not ready to merge.
    • What to do with PRs that never had ‘prio-list’ ( community contributions, some old issue before kanban era, )
#57

September 27, 2022

#58

October 11, 2022

1 Like
#59

October 18, 2022

  • CI failures on 3.16
    • failure on the local filesystem runner
    • proposal: skip the single test because it’s preventing us from running all tests
    • observation: this pulp_rpm has a similar failure https://github.com/pulp/pulp_rpm/pull/2838
      • actually it’s different and it needs an actual code change in pulp_rpm test to fix so it’s unrelated
  • deadlock PR desperately needs another review(er) please
  • pulp_file needs some TLC
  • design discussion for: https://github.com/pulp/pulpcore/issues/2851
  • bmbouter scheduling the zero downtime working group
#60

(NOTE: apologies for these postings being behind - new meeting-facilitator skipped a groove and didna post. Catching up now.)

November 15, 2022

  • 3.22 release schedule
    • ipanova is the release shepherd
    • We’re at 2 months since 3.21
    • tentative GA date is Nov 30
    • 16 and 23 of Nov go/no-go meetings
    • what should go in?
      • domains
        • needs issue, add to 3.22 blockers [AI: gerrod]
      • blockers
  • django4/core-3.25 discussion
    • django-4 happens in April
    • 3.25 needs more time due to likelihood of breaking-changes
    • don’t want to get downstream products “stuck” on older versions that will EOL
    • “when should 3.23 and 3.24 happen”
      • IF 3.25 is going to be “django-4” - prob want to have significant burn-in
      • 3.23 - prob end-of Jan, to get in anything we want to have available for “conference season” in Feb
      • 3.24 - prob end-of March, for 2-month-cadence/pre-django-4
    • 3.25/django-4 linkage is not required - let’s “see what happens” w/ django and re-evaluate in April
  • AI: ggainey to post to discourse
  • AI: ggainey to engage in “creative rearranging” of team doc

November 8, 2022 - skipped due to PulpCON

November 1, 2022

  • Failing test related to repo version delete
    • dkliban to investigate

October 25, 2022

  • Filter-process appears to need some more refactoring
    • x9c4 is willing to do, but needs some buy-in for quick review turnarounds
    • will fix a couple of openapi-schema bugs
  • discussion ensues RE opportunity costs
    • what about new content-types?
    • how can we best prioritize competing priorities from groups that are not in agreement?
      • let’s get folk from “emerging” opportunities come talk to us directly